Thursday, March 5, 2009

LT219: You Don't Bring Me Flowers Anymore


LaFleur means flower in French, but it seems Sawyer had a reputation for being a hard boss to work for. As Reader Michael points out when the guards noticed Horace drunk at the fence they were very intimidated by having to wake Sawyer from his sleep. This could be because that is how one gets to be head of security in Dharmaville. I do hope the show gives a bit more explanation of how they went completely from “not being Dharma material” to being in charge of all the guns.


While we are thinking of the opening scene…was that the Pearl station with all those monitors? Ok, forget the TV’s and focus on that girl the one was dancing with.

It’s hard not to look at that shirt, but it is OK to look closer. See anything? Yep, that is a Geronimo Jackson t-shirt. Hey, eyes up here, mister!


Reader Aunt J-ha wonders if we will see more of the four-toed statue. She thinks it appeared to be a woman in that quick shot. Click on this picture to see a larger version:

I see a skirt and long hair, so maybe Aunt J-ha is on to something.

My research says this could be the Egyptian god, Horus.

Besides the name play on Horus to Horace (Goodspeed) it has the skirt, the pointy ears, somewhat long hair, holding something in its hands and gee that symbol looks familiar…sort of like Paul’s necklace.

The symbol for Horus is a falcon like seen on the Swan Hatch’s Countdown Clock. And Horus was said to have been raised on a floating island.


This passage was penned by Horace Smith:

In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,

Stands a gigantic Leg, which far off throws

The only shadow that the Desert knows.

"I am great Ozymandias," saith the stone,

"The King of kings: this mighty city shows

The wonders of my hand."

The city's gone!

Naught but the leg remaining to disclose

The sight of that forgotten Babylon.

We wonder, and some hunter may express

Wonder like ours, when through the wilderness

Where London stood, holding the wolf in chase,

He meets some fragment huge, and stops to guess

What wonderful, but unrecorded, race

Once dwelt in that annihilated place.


The author was describing Ramses II. Just to bring things full circle, the name, Ozymandias, will be uttered in the movie being released on Friday called “Watchmen” (see earlier post on this book/movie). Hmm…


The symbol being held in the picture above is the same as the necklace that Paul wore. It stands for “eternal life”. It also can mean the key of life, but a key to what? Often in time past, mirrors were fashioned into this shape to represent some sort of window into the afterlife.

One researcher claims the symbol is associated with an ancient cattle culture. Frank, the pilot, did see a cow when he first landed his helicopter on the island.

And let’s not leave Paul out of this. If he is wearing an “afterlife” symbol doesn’t that sort of associate him with immortal Richard more than Dharma. Sure, Dharma also was research life extension, but that isn’t quite the same thing. Could this mean Paul was a spy but then feel in love and Richard needed the body to show his followers what happens to traitors?


Reader Ben says it drives him crazy how Richard’s appearance is inconsistent. Lately we see him well-groomed, but when he met young Ben (around the time the last episode is on) we see him with long and stringy hair.

Others have notice Richard’s use of eyeliner.

In this past episode Sawyer refers to Richard as the “guy with the eyeliner”.

Did you know that ancient Egyptian men and woman word eyeliner? The theory is that it helped to keep the sun’s glare out of their eyes.


I’m referring to Horace Goodspeed now. He seemed a bit dull to be a leader of a commune, let alone an entire community. But looks can be deceiving. For example, what if he has a dark side like every other leader seems to have? What if he setup Paul and Annie to go out on that picnic and arranged him to be killed?

Let’s not forget that Horace happened to be driving by the woods outside of Portland right when Ben was being born. And of course, no father of the year awards for a guy who misses his child’s birth.


Imagine trying to keep this stuff straight! We have thousands of fans contributing in a collective fashion and the staff is probably down to a handful of permanent writers and a green alien (see Dharma Special Access video). Anyway, here is what I’m getting at:

Cute kid, but she looks about 3 years old and yet Charlotte’s birth year is 1979. This event was to have happened around 1974. She either lied about her age (oh there is a shock!) or time is stranger than we realize or LOST needs some help keeping things straight.

Speaking of continuity, how did Sawyer know Richard met John Locke in a flashback when he wasn’t present?

And where on the island are Rose and Bernard and the other Survivors?


Was it me or were just as confused as to which island they were on? Was Annie’s delivery on Hydra or the main island? Ok, I’m 95% sure it was the main island so why no doctors around? Didn’t someone say she was supposed to go to the main island last Tuesday?

Tell I’m goofing something up here, please!


…Watergate is in full bloom
…Stephen King writes “Carrie”, the book club book Juliet will suggest in 2004
…Ali beats Foreman in the “Rumble in the Jungle”
…Researcher writes about mental obedience in the ”Milgram Report”
…Lucy the skeleton head is found linking us for the first time to a prior species


…Star Wars premiers
…the Apple II computer is introduced and seen in the Swan Hatch
…BBC begins a series about scientists starting a commune and turns out to be a hoax
…Senate hearings begin concerning mind control techniques by military black ops


Be many thought they were re-running the prior week's episode at the beginning of this show? Did you notice how things were different? For starters, there was no Christian in the Hot Dharma Wheel Room. Was John the only one to "see" him or was the time period changing on us?

I like the throw away line about the polar bears getting out of their cages.

Oh, and the nickname "Plato" that Sawyer threw out.

Did the Hostiles who attacked Annie and Paul look to be a little ragged again? Are the Hostiles a well organized military unit or not?

Again, honesty...did you see Annie pull out those ear plugs before passing through the sonic fence? If that is all it took, then Kate was wasting a lot of energy climbing over it in previous episodes (notice I didn't say is past time, because it was future time...oh never mind!).

I'm not sure why I feel that the events on LOST are somehow connected to T.O. being dropped by the Cowboys one day after the LaFleur episode. Now if New Orleans picks up his contract, don't say I didn't tell you so!


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Kat said...

Sawyer and Juliet were watching as Locke strolled up to Richard to talk to him. That's how Sawyer knew about Locke seeing Richard in 1954.

KC said...

Thanks, Kat. Sometimes so much happens it is difficult to remember it all.


KC said...

Kat - What a cool picture you have there with Mr. Locke!


Kat said...

I'm usually pretty good at remembering scenes with Locke. ;)

So, if Charlotte was born in '79, then Dan couldn't have seen her in '74. Unless the time lines are all screwy or she did lie about her age, as you said. When did she say her age, anyway? Maybe Dan just thought that was Charlotte. But it would stand to reason the creators did want us to believe it really was. This show makes my head hurt!

Thanks for the pic compliment. You can read all about my encounter at my website.

Adrian said...

Richard does not wear eyeliner. He has dark eye lashes top and bottom. I have the same problem. It's get made fun of occasionally, but the girls generally dig it. Mabilene Men. lol

He's on the record debunking this. Sawyer was, as always, being a smart ass.

The statute could be Horus, or Anubis. Anubis also carries the Ankh and the hieroglyphics that spell Anubis are similar to the symbols that appear on the temple and on the countdown timer in the swan hatch.

Anubis apparently was seen as the god that escorted people to the underworld.

As for the Ankh, wikipedia says that the person with the most commonly accepted explanation for its meaning was named Inman. Also the last name of the guy that welcomes Desmond to the hatch.

Then there was this from Wikipedia...since you mentioned Plato--I stressed the Cerberus word. That word, of course, was used on the blast door map from the swan to refer to the smoke monster.

Anubis was sometimes associated with Sirius in the heavens, and CERBERUS in Hades. In his dialogues (e.g. Republic 399e, 592a), Plato has Socrates utter, "by the dog" (kai me ton kuna), "by the dog of Egypt","by the dog, the god of the Egyptians" (Gorgias, 482b), for emphasis.

Charlotte said the island was death, and the statute, Anubis and Hades all tie into this.

Glad to see you mentioned star wars. Black and white theme strong is red...a color that has been of significance on Lost for some time. In SW, red is the color of the emperor's guards, the color of his throne room in the new trilogy and the color of all sith swords.

Desmond painting red, among other places and now Charlotte (dubbed "Red" by Rose--roses are red) and seen in the picture wearing red. The meaning, if any, of all this is escaping me.