Wednesday, December 10, 2008

LT153 - History of LOST - Adam and Eve


We’ve stepped from the day the island was brought into existence, through the Ancients that first populated the island, and then strolled through the Hostiles family tree, sailed with the Black Rock in the 1800’s and now jump to the next chronological event: Adam and Eve.


Everyone, this is Adam…or is it Eve?

Jack could probably tell us which is which, but it was Locke who named the skeletons found in the cave by Kate and Jack. Jack did estimate they had been dead for 40-50 years which places their death around the late 1950’s.

Jack found a small pouch containing to rocks: one black and one white.


Once again, the Bible creeps into the storyline as Adam and Eve are explained to be the first man and woman on Earth. You know the story, but the highlights that might apply are that Adam was created first from the dust of the ground, Eve was next made from a rib out of Adam, and a bad influence would corrupt the pair in the opposite order they were made. And it all happened in a garden.

In a less popular writings are religious stories not included in the Bible. There are two books written about Adam and Eve from the time the Bible story casts the couple out of paradise, now lost. God orders them out into the barren lands to live in a CAVE! This is called the Cave of Treasures in this religious writings. Upon his death, Adam requests to be laid to rest in the cave. Thus Adam and Eve shared a cave.

Does this meant he 40-50 years could be 4,000 to 5,000 years?


The summer games are particularly found of anagrams as well as the show and we were told that “Adam and Eve” were part of the letters to be used in an anagram clue. The producers said that the episode, “Not in Portland”, would offer an anagram that could be used to explain Adam and Eve.

The anagram is from the brainwashing room which contains this phrase: “Only fools are enslaved by time.”

Viewers got to work and have suggested:

- fools sin, adam and eve play close by tree
- carlton and damon possibly eye false eve
- adam and eve fly plane too close by sirens

The show also revealed the Mittelos Aviation which works into an angram of “Lost Time” and this seems to be the winner!

One theory builds from there that the plane wreckage that Jack first found by the caves is not from Flight 815. Instead, the wreckage is from a different plane crash in which Jack was involved with. He doesn’t realize it but the empty coffin is NOT his father’s, but instead it is Locke’s! This coffin is the one we saw at the end of Season 4 with Jeremy Bentham/John Locke lying in. Jack and crew fly back with it…the crash and this is their crash sight by the caves. Cool, huh?


The producers have also promised that in the end, we could point to Adam and Eve to prove they had this mad design in mind from the beginning. This tells me that we have met Adam and Eve already.

The most popular theory is that Kate and Jack will return to the island and the skeletons will be missing this time. This leads them to realize they were the skeletons.

Other popular theories include Rose and Bernard because of the black and white stones matching their skin colors.

Desmond and Penny are in the running as well.


Nothing contradicts the claim that Jack still has the black and white stones. My theory is that these stones work as some sort of key, probably to unlock the riddle of where is the island.

The stones are seen on Penny’s table in Flashes Before Your Eyes? TURE?


We inch a little closer to some revelations about LOST by forming the following theories:

- Adam and Eve are Jack and Kate
- Lost Time is evident although we don’t have a calculation yet
- We loop until we get things right, death is evidence of success


With the time of death estimate being 40 to 50 years we have a date range from 1954 to 1964 for when this couple died in the caves. This walks us up to 1962 when the next major event in the History of LOST occurs. It is the year that Enzo Valenzetti came up with his Doomsday Equation. That’s next up…


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Monday, December 8, 2008

LT152 - Dharma Special Access 3


About once per week I receive an email from the producers giving us special advanced access to features. We get 2 or 3 days advanced notice, so hurry before that password expires. And if it does, then stop on over to to see what you missed.

Here is the text of the email:


VOICE: Who is it?

Why, it's Damon and Carlton, here to give you your very own free Dharma Initiative Namaste ringtone.

Yes, this week we have a special free Namaste ringtone for you guys. For this complimentary content, just text "Namaste" to 77888 to get started.

And now the legal jargon: By texting the above keyword, your number will be registered on the ABC mobile site. Standard text and data messaging fees apply. You will not be part of ABC mobile subscription. Terms and conditions at For support or inquiries call 866-853-9793. The ringtone is only available for a 48 hour period (12/8/08-12/10/08). Hurry and get yours now.

Onomatopoeia is a disease all LOST writers suffer from. We're always looking for ways of intensifying the sense of action we're trying to convey on the page. So without spoiling what's coming up this season, we've asked our awesome co-producer/script coordinator Gregg Nations to pull up a list of some of the unique words that appear in the first 3 episodes of season 5. They might give you a very marginal sense of what's coming up:




Not only are these words fun to write, they're also fun to spell check. As each one comes up, your fingers hover there on the mouse wondering whether to "ignore" or "save" or whether you're just plain insane.

Also this week, we've got a brand new video about the LOST BOOK CLUB for you, including a special reading from a book that appears this upcoming season. GAASSPPPP! What's this? Why, it looks like a first-look at an as-yet-unseen Dharma station logo. Hmmmmmmm... I wonder what the name of the station is? To check it all out, click on the link below and enter the password.

Enjoy. As usual, these are up for only 48 hours. Until next week...

Peace, Love and Namaste,
Damon and Carlton

dharmaspecialaccess.comENTER PASSWORD: adella courey


A book seen on a show is coming up James Joyce, "Ulysses". For those who have not plowed through the 265,000 words, the story is about the day in the life of a man, June 16, 1904.

The book is some mild controversy regarding some of the depictions the main character observes in this one day. Others criticize its wordy and over-descriptive style that makes Tolkien seem brief.

The book clearly plays off Homer's "Odyssey", in several ways. Characters even seem to line-up as Joyce's main character, Leopold Bloom, mirrors Homer's Odysseus...and Molly Bloom matches up to Penelope. WHAT? Penelope?


Check out the video and you'll learn episode 7 of Season 5 is called "3:16". I'm going for the Bible reference that used to be held up in the end zone of every football game during a field goal, "John 3:16", but who knows?


At the end of the DSA video for this week we get a quick glimpse of a Dharma logo? Real or fake? You decide, but they did mention it in the email.


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Sunday, December 7, 2008

LT151: History of LOST - Black Rock II


With the ship connected to two family names that play a crucial role on the island, it deserves some further analysis. Check out the last post to get a timeline of the Ship, the family names and some questions we will try to address in this post.


When the Black Rock left port on what would become its final voyage, the filed plan was to sail to Thailand. This gives us a connection to Jack and his tattoo.

This tattoo was added while Jack was in Thailand by a lady who claims to be able to see people’s inner self. The symbols are Chinese and not Thai.

The fact that the ship’s destination and the tattoos involve the same location probably has no relevance, but it is interesting to note that the lady who did the tattoo work is named Achara, which when translated into Hindu becomes Dharma.


The name is “Black Rock Storm” which seemed either a real act of fate or a made up painting for the show. It is painted by an artist in Hawaii named Thomas Hannsz. And what about that last name that rings a bell?

A quick search on him reveals that he does have his work on the Internet at

In an interview he hints that his life occupation is still up in the air. It was fateful timing that he happened to be delivering water to the set of LOST on a regular basis. He became a familiar face with many of the cast and crew and was offered a role as an Other extra. He happened to be in his painting phase and decided to use a dog that hung around on the set. Someone noticed and said they needed a dog painting in Jacob’s cabin and they used his artwork.

They asked for Black Rock Storm which is shown at the auction but never mentioned…other than visually when it shows up hanging in Charles Widmore’s bedroom.

On Hannsz website you will find these two paintings plus a few other interesting ones.

One in particular is called “Soul of Ganesh”. If you are a faithful reader of LOST TIDBITS then you might recall hearing that name in a post some time ago. It was when we discussing a statue missing a limb and having four toes!

Several other paintings are found with vague references to LOST. You should check it out.


Past the irony that a ship named the Black Rock wrecks ON an island that contains black rock…the real mystery is how it got so far inland?

The popular theory is that the island “moved” to the South Pacific when the Black Rock just happened to be in that exact area.


What we can surmise is the strong bonds between Hanso and Widmore. Once the ship disappeared we then discover that Widmore Corporation had an employee named Hanso. During his employment either he or the corporation had possession of the journal. Late, a grandson of Hanso buys the fleet of his family and a grandson of Widmore buys the journal a second time.

This ship and these families appear to be at odds with each other in light of how the journal appears to change hands. And to help us not forget the summer game, Find 815, brought the Black Rock back into play.


If Tavord heard of the journal we can understand why he wanted it for sentimental reasons, but if Widmore Corporation was the actual discoverer of the book, then what was their motivation for obtaining it?

One possible answer is that the original member, a possible family member, wants the journal back. Excuse me!?

Well, consider if the original author is still alive. I’m suggesting Jacob. Take a look at the clothes Jacob is wearing:

It looks like 19th Century garb to me. Now check out Richard’s clothing from when he first meets young Ben:

This creates a link with Jacob, Richard and the Black Rock.

Consider on the blast door map that is reads, “AH/MDG”. The producers have confirmed that this was an error on their part and that the door map should have read “AH/GDG”. This would correctly read, “Alvar Hanso/Gerald DeGroot”. (Keep in mind from the last post the translation of De Groot). We have been told that Gerald’s original first name was Martin, but it was changed after further consideration. Even that seems to be a clue.

So, perhaps Magnus was changed to Jacob as well. While the writers have done a wonderful job keeping most storylines connected, I’ll give them a little wiggle room when it comes to late developed ideas and characters we have yet to see or hear much of except for an occasional mention on an Orientation tape. And if memory serves me, Jacob doesn’t care much for technology, Arr!

This makes Richard, Jacob, Magnus, Martin, Gerald all candidates as the original crew of the Black Rock or near descendents. It’s a bit off topic, but I might as well suggest that Matthew Abaddon might have been on the ship as well.

And all this from a wardrobe choice. HA!

Oh, one theory floating around suggests that Charles Widmore was on the Black Rock.


How did the journal get from the ship to the pirate island?

Imagine the Ancients/Hostiles had to move the island at a previous time and it popped up right underneath the Black Rock. Sure, anyone would be tempted to point out the extreme amount of coincidence involved, but this show is built on Fate. One additional thing to consider is that Magnus Hanso sort of knew of this island and was searching for it based on come cryptic treasure map. This could explain why he sailed east instead of west from his gold mining operation near Australia. Remember that Magnus is described as an entrepreneur of sorts since he ran a slave labor operation after the practice was banned, used ships to transport the raw materials from his mining operation and might have been bit of a pirate.

So either by fate or a bit by design, Magnus got the Black Rock to the area when the island appeared. The crew began to notice the strange properties of the island and Magnus saw another opportunity as a businessman. Somehow he gets off the island, takes his journal and it falls into the hands of pirates. Later, his son or grandson finds the journal off the coast of Africa.

To be fair when assembling ideas is that Hanso is Dharma and they were at odds with the Hostiles evidenced by the Purge. Yet, Ben crossed over to the Hostiles as leader. Ben is now at odds with Widmore, who seemed to be in cahoots with Hanso. This leaves us with some contradictions until more is revealed.


Our review of the timeline of events on LOST Island will take us to the 1950’s.


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